Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 17
02/16/2010 01:00 PM House TRANSPORTATION
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*+ | HB 322 | TELECONFERENCED | |
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HB 322-WINTER TIRE REQUIREMENTS 1:05:04 PM CHAIR P. WILSON announced that the first order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 322, "An Act relating to winter tires; and providing for an effective date." 1:05:17 PM REPRESENTATIVE JOHN HARRIS, Alaska State Legislature, remarked that the committee would hear two bills today related to safety issues, one banning cell phone usage during driving, and the other one requiring the use of winter tires. Both bills are somewhat controversial since they impose restrictions on people's activities for improved safety. This bill, HB 322, has to do with safety. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS explained that he was approached by tire business owners expressing concern over vehicles being driven in winter conditions with inadequate or bald tires. He brought the issue of adequate winter tires forward as one that merits discussion. Although he is not an expert, he has several experts to explain the merits of using winter tires on Alaska's roads. He noted some amendments for the committee to consider. Drivers can swerve and careen out of control when roads are icy or during snowy conditions, which pose a safety issue for themselves and other vehicles on the roadway. He offered his belief that this issue is worthwhile to discuss. This bill would require all motor vehicles to have studded tires or tires bearing the "mountain snowflake" symbol, which indicates the tires have met certain performance-based standards for winter driving. 1:08:47 PM KELLY GAEDE, President, Johnson Tire Service, explained that he worked for Nokian Tyres, a Finnish tire company that invented the winter tire in 1936. This company is the expert on winter driving conditions. He recalled his astonishment to discover how few people in Alaska drive using winter tires. 1:10:35 PM MR. GAEDE explained that this bill has a purpose, which is to create a higher level of safety during the winter driving months in Alaska. Use of winter tires is not just for snow and ice, he remarked. He offered that lateral testing, or negative lateral testing occurs when a driver turns the wheel left or right but the vehicle does not turn. This is the single highest reason for traffic fatalities. MR. GAEDE demonstrated a lateral testing video. He pointed out the speed at 28 miles per hour (mph). Over 80 percent of all major winter time accidents are caused by lateral stability issues, he stated. 1:12:28 PM MR. GAEDE referred to the video that members just watched and pointed out that the driver turned the steering wheel but the car did not turn at all. He explained that when driving with all-season tires, the tires do not provide feedback to the driver, whereas when using winter tires they do provide feedback. Those members that have driven using studded tires may have felt the vibration of the tires, which is a form of feedback. In situations with all-season tires on the vehicle, there is literally no feedback. One controversy which arises in areas that do not receive much snow is people do not think they need all-season tires. Approximately all 90 percent of Alaskans use all-season tires year round [slide 1]. Thus, 1 in 10 Alaskans are driving on tires that are a designated winter project. He characterized all-season tires as completely inadequate in all types of winter driving. All-season tries are manufactured with generic Carbon Black compounding focusing on mileage. This compounding loses gripping capabilities at 38 degrees by 50 percent. Finland has tested products and discovered that the pliability of the product is similar to the table, in that it has likely lost about 95 percent of its capabilities to grip. At 15 degrees the tire's gripping capabilities for all-season or summer tires is less than 10 percent. He said, "It is not just about snow. It's also about the temperature--very, very important to know that. Winter tires are simple. They save lives." 1:15:18 PM MR. GAEDE related that winter tires are manufactured with specific compounds, tread patterns, and advanced studding systems designed for winter driving conditions [slide 3]. The winter tire sidewall is designated with the government's "Severe Service Emblem." Thus, if this symbol is on the side of the tire, it provides assurance that the tire will be adequate and is safe for winter driving conditions. 1:15:38 PM MR. GAEDE, in response to Representative T. Wilson, explained that the government's "Severe Service Emblem" has been certified for approximately 15 years. The emblem is on the side of every winter tire and is a standard also used in Europe. He did not know which tire companies in Alaska would not be familiar with the emblem, he stated. MR. GAEDE, in response to Chair P. Wilson, agreed the emblem is one that has been adopted by the U.S. Government. 1:16:34 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ asked whether all winter tires have the emblem. MR. GAEDE agreed. He related that the industry does not refer to the tire as snow tires since the tires are not driven only on snow, but refer to them as winter tires. However, the statistics support the fact that temperature is a critical issue in terms of pliability and traction. 1:17:13 PM REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON asked how many brands of tires are in the market. MR. GAEDE guessed that about 106 manufacturers worldwide manufacture tires and about 75 of them offer winter tires. He remarked that every major company is in the winter tire market. MR. GAEDE stated that winter tires save lives [slide 4]. Winter compounds remain pliable up to minus 40 degrees, tread patterns expel snow, slush, and ice away from the driving path. He highlighted Nokian believes that studded tires provide the highest level of traction in the most severe winter driving conditions, such as polished ice. He differentiated the polished ice from the type of ice that is found on a pond. He explained that polished ice creates grooves, yet a person could not actually skate on the ice. Thus, most of the driving on slippery roads is on polished ice, such as the type of ice in which a crust on the driveway would turn into ice over time. 1:18:43 PM MR. GAEDE offered that several designated winter tires already are sold in the state which can be purchased for year round use [slide 5]. The average set of winter tires ranges in cost from $400 to $600. Based on usage, a person would likely need to replace them every four or five years. Some companies build the "true four season tire" such as Nokian WR G2, Hankook iPike, and BF Goodrich. He remarked that about seven manufacturers make the "true four season tire." 1:19:54 PM CHAIR P. WILSON asked whether the tires are more expensive than regular tires. MR. GAEDE answered not necessarily. It depends on the type of vehicle and the size. He suggested that a person can buy high performance tire, such as one for a Corvette, which would cost more. He elaborated that there are ultimate end, mid-grade and cheaper tires. He characterized the Nokian as high end, the Handkook iPike as medium, and the BF Goodrich would be slightly below that quality. He related it as being similar to buying a car, noting the difference between a Mercedes and a Ford. 1:20:59 PM MR. GAEDE remarked that it was shocking to discover how many people do not use winter tires in Alaska. He described a harrowing experience he had while driving a rental car without winter tires. He provided statistics. In 2007, 6,635 or 63 percent of all accidents happened during the winter driving months, including on dry pavement [slide 6]. Approximately 50 percent occurred on ice, either black ice or polished ice. He stated that 55 percent of 6,635 accidents involved 4-wheel drive vehicles. He suggested car manufacturers create the impression that 4-wheel drive vehicles provide traction, but the people in the tire businesses say, "The only safety system touching the road is your tires." If someone is using a vehicle equipped with all-season tires in 20 degree weather, the vehicle will not have any traction. MR. GAEDE explained there are many benefits to legislation [slide 7]. He explained that Finland has 5.3 million people and performed the most extensive and comprehensive socio-economic study regarding the mandatory use of winter tires [slide 8]. The results showed an economic and moral benefit to winter tire use, including millions of dollars of savings in medical and life insurance costs, personal property, and state and federal costs associated with accidents. REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON asked for an explanation of moral benefit. MR. GAEDE responded that this bill will saves lives by reducing major accidents, keeping people from being in wheelchairs, and it will be "doing everyone a favor." 1:25:08 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON offered her belief it is not that simple. She related that $400 - $600 for a single parent can represent a hardship. It is enough for single parents to keep their vehicle running. Additionally, for those serving at a military base, such as Eielson Air Force Base, that it is not as simple as changing a tire. MR. GAEDE stated the data supports the long-term effects of implementing mandatory winter tire use would save money. CHAIR P. WILSON commented that some people cannot add $400 to their budget, especially families with kids. Some people are living paycheck-to-paycheck, she said. MR. GAEDE understood. He said it is the biggest objection, but also the easiest objection, although he does not want to downplay the significance of the matter. 1:27:13 PM REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN asked for the difference between the cost of good winter tires and the all-season tires. MR. GAEDE responded that the costs are negligible. Of course it depends on the vehicle and wheel size as he previously stated, and while some products are expensive, a mid-range set of all- season tires is about $500 and about the same cost for winter tires. REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked when winter tires become inefficient as they wear and whether the tread would need to be measured. MR. GAEDE answered no, that he did not think so. Some people currently drive on bald all-season tires. He suggested that people should check with their local tire company, who can offer advice on whether to change the tires or if they are good for another year or so. 1:28:55 PM MR. GAEDE, in response to Representative T. Wilson, explained that the length of time the tire will last would depend on the manufacturer. Some tires will lose their winter compounding benefits at 50 percent of the tire wear. Other products, such as Nokian, retain the winter driving benefits for the entire length of the product. 1:30:20 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ asked whether any other northern states have mandatory winter tire requirements. MR. GAEDE answered no. He said that in 1972, the tire industry created the concept of the "all-weather, all-season" tires. Prior to 1972 tires were either winter or summer tires. He offered his belief that the U.S. and Canada has done a disservice to customers in selling all-season tires as year round tires. He does not think this will easily change but emphasized that states like New York, Vermont, Massachusetts and other cold weather states need winter tire products. 1:31:44 PM MICHELLE HOGAN, Johnson Tire Service, responded to the question about the cost. She stated she is a single mother, and the reason for adding a slide to indicate that winter tires could be used year round is to advise people if they can only buy one set of tires that they can replace their set with winter tires when it is time to replace them. MR. GAEDE suggested that they encourage people on a budget to buy one of the three sets listed when they purchase the next set of tires. 1:33:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN asked whether a grandfather clause will allow people to continue using their present tires until they wear out. MR. GAEDE answered no, but that it could be added. CHAIR P. WILSON stated that the effective date of the bill is December 15, 2011. MS. HOGAN responded to a question on northern states. She agreed that no other state has implemented mandatory use of winter tires. However, Quebec recently adopted winter tire use and allowed four years for people to comply, in order to grandfather in products. She elaborated that Quebec instituted a step system, suggesting their law could be used as a model. 1:34:39 PM MR. GAEDE discussed Finland's winter tire requirements [slide 8]. Finland performed the most extensive and comprehensive socio-economic study regarding the mandatory use of winter tires setting a benchmark for future studies, and demonstrating an economic benefit to winter tire use. The results included millions of dollars of medical and life insurance costs associated with accidents. In 1995, Finland passed legislation requiring the use of winter tires. In 1999, Sweden passed legislation requiring the use of winter tires [slide 9]. Since then, accidents involving major injuries and fatalities have decreased between 11 to 14 percent annually. In 2008, Quebec also passed legislation, which reduced accidents by 42 percent [slide 10]. In 2006, Germany encouraged winter tires usage using public service announcements and accident the number of accidents went down from 12,359 in 2005 to 5,230 in 2007, which represented a 46.4 percent reduction overall. Germany is in the process of adopting the law as mandatory [slide 11]. 1:37:24 PM MR. GAEDE stated that studies suggest studded winter tires reduce the crash rate in winter by up to 10 percent, which saved $26 million in economic costs. He related that this figure was reported in a 2004 University of Alaska School of Engineering study, the "Socio-Economic Effects of Studded Tires in Alaska." MR. GAEDE reported projected savings if winter tires were used. He projected that the avoided crashes saved $26 million per year in economic costs [slide 13]. The graph illustrates that insurers had 52 percent in savings, and drivers and passengers saved 27 percent, with federal and state government saving 11 percent, and others in the community saving 10 percent. These savings were based on 10 percent of the drivers using studded tires. That figure is based on taxes collected on studded tires. This bill would increase the number of people using winter tires, and could save 7 to 8 times more in savings. The "trickle down" effect includes health care savings including insurance costs, health care costs, and ultimately would cause insurance premiums to decrease. She surmised that drivers out of pocket expenses could decrease and they could use their savings to buy the next set of winter tires and continue the safety circle that is being promoted. 1:40:10 PM MS. HOGAN summarized that HB 322 would save lives, protect Alaskans, create jobs, and save Alaskans money [slide 11]. 1:40:52 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON referred to the statistics and related that the accident could be due to some other reason such as distraction or cell phone use. She asked for the reason the accidents were being attributed to tires. MS. HOGAN answered that the statistics were based on the Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF) crash data and road surface reporting. She agreed that other factors and circumstances could have contributed to the accident. The statistics were compiled on accident reports that indicated ice, snow, and slush were contributing factors of the accident. REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON offered her belief that accidents are not generally based on one thing. She said she has never had winter tires and has not been involved in accidents. She said it seemed that they singled out several criteria rather than looking at other circumstances. MS. HOGAN added that she makes a valid point. She has been working with the DOT&PF on this. She stated that she also pulled in statistics prepared by insurance companies in other countries, too. 1:43:08 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether any economic impact has been done to determine how it would affect low-income families. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS answered no. He pointed out that the same issue happened with seatbelts in Alaska, but now is commonly held to save lives and people have a much better survival chance when wearing their seatbelt. The issue is the safety of everyone else on the highway, not necessarily the person driving the vehicle. A vehicle is a "four-wheel bomb" that can kill people when driven improperly. He stated that the issue has been brought forward as a discussion issue. He asked whether we want to have the best tires possible for winter driving conditions. Currently, the law does not require people to use winter tires and this discussion is to consider whether the legislature wants to implement this. REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON stated that seatbelts come with cars. This would be another layer of government. She expressed concern that this would apply to the military. She asked how much time a person entering Alaska would have to buy them, and how readily available the tires would be in all parts of the state. She said she wanted people to be safe, but she does not want to create a hardship for those with lower income or for people only in the state for a few months. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS mentioned that seatbelts did not originally come with cars until the federal law made seatbelts mandatory. For some time people could buy vehicles without seatbelts, but people could order them installed. The industry also added other safety enhancements such as airbags to help keep people safe. Now, it is probably not possible to find any vehicle sold without the safety enhancement of airbags. He remarked that the reason for safety improvements is an effort to address the high cost of accidents. The biggest cost in the health care debate is the cost of insurance. The debate is whether or not winter tires offer the best technology. He admitted he does not drive with winter tires, although his wife uses Bridgestone Blizzak tires and loves them. Under the bill, the DOT&PF can determine what type of tire would suffice and will have the discretion to do so. He offered his belief that the discussion should be held, and considering whether winter tires are cost effective and save lives is an important discussion. He also understood the cost concern for lower income families. 1:48:40 PM REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN asked whether an auto dealer could be required to sell cars with this tire installed. MR. GAEDE answered that all the car dealers sell winter tires. In response to Chair Wilson, he explained that some dealerships sell an entire set of wheels and tires to trade out. He said the dealers understand the concept of safety and using the best tire for winter safety. 1:50:22 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether other tires currently sold have that winter snowflake emblem designation or would be considered acceptable. BRAD BLYSMA, Equipment Fleet Parts Manager, Statewide Equipment Fleet, Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF), in response to T. Wilson, answered yes, there are tires, and tire dealers that sell winter tires which have the designation described in the bill. In further response to Representative T. Wilson, he explained that he was unsure whether the Bridgestone Blizzak tires have the designated emblem, although if the DOT&PF did certify tires that tire would be a top candidate to qualify as acceptable. He clarified that several brands are sold in Alaska which carry the winter service snowflake designation. 1:52:40 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether DOT&PF currently uses winter tires for its fleet. MR. BLYSMA responded that the DOT&PF supplies winter tires at the discretion of their staff and the tires carry the winter service snowflake designation. 1:53:02 PM CHAIR P. WILSON referred to the fiscal note and indicated there would still be a large amount of funding for state to be in compliance. She asked how many state vehicles have winter tires. DIANA ROTKIS, Manager, Statewide Equipment Fleet, Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF), estimated that approximately 35 percent of the light-duty vehicles in Anchorage are not using winter tires. She did not have any figures for the University of Alaska or the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC). In further response to Chair P. Wilson, she agreed that the fiscal note indicates $1 million, but part of the cost is to purchase tires with rims for convenience and to save time in rotating tires on the fleet. 1:55:03 PM MARY SIROKY, Legislative Liaison, Office of the Commissioner, Department of Transportation & Public Facilities (DOT&PF), explained that the DOT&PF is not in a position to determine which tires are approved for winter driving conditions. The DOT&PF would rely on the Rubber Manufacturers Association (RMA), or another organization to select the appropriate brands. 1:56:03 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether different lists would be developed in other parts of state. MS. ROTKIS responded that at this time the DOT&PF does not have a designated tire difference by temperature. 1:56:48 PM CINDY CASHEN, Administrator, Highway Safety Office (AHSO), Division of Program Development, in response to Representative Gruenberg, stated she was not familiar with the safety aspects alleged for this bill. REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG expressed concern and was unaware of the potential safety issues. He expressed interest in any federal or state studies that have been done on winter tires. He further expressed interest in the factual and scientific information to determine the safety necessity. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS offered to provide additional information to members. 1:58:57 PM CHAIR WILSON remarked that Johnson Tire Center would stand to profit from this bill, and not to diminish their testimony, she would like to review other neutral information and the federal government information on the winter tire snowflake emblem. 1:59:39 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked for a breakdown on the Statewide Equipment Fleet vehicles. She would like to know if decisions are based on the regions. MS. CASHEN deferred to Ms. Rotkis and Ms. Siroky to answer the question. 2:00:37 PM MS. CASHEN offered to provide Representative Gruenberg with fatality statistics, as well as motor collision statistics. She recalled several pages that law enforcement officers must fill out on motor vehicle collision reports, including vehicle conditions, road conditions, and driver or passenger information. She elaborated that several boxes are used in the report for each collision, including inadequate or tire failure. This is how the HSO gathers information on the number of crashes that relate to inadequate tires. She commented that other factors may be involved, including inattention, road conditions, but the HSO does gather tire data. 2:02:10 PM REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG applauded the AHSO office. He expressed interest in reviewing the federal or state law or regulations that may apply. He expressed interest in additional research. He asked whether any other state mandates winter tires. MS. CASHEN offered to provide information. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS answered no, that other states do not mandate winter tires. REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG remarked that we would be "plowing new ground." He pointed out that this legislature is small and usually takes the lead of other states. 2:04:02 PM REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN referred to the fiscal note, and to the $1 million revenue. He inquired as to whether the winter tires could be phased in over a four years period, which may lower the fiscal impact. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS responded, referring to a study from the University of Alaska, Institute of Social and Economic Research (ISER). He anticipated, from his experience on the House Finance Standing Committee, that the fiscal impact could be whittled down or eliminated. He pointed out in the event that accidents are reduced, a subsequent reduction is had by the Alaska State Troopers, Department of Public Safety, and the DOT&PF for road clean-up, which is not reflected in the fiscal note. He characterized these types of instances would reflect negative fiscal notes. 2:06:30 PM CHAIR P. WILSON indicated that HB 322 would be held over. Since no other states have similar legislation, several amendments are pending and the committee will work on a committee substitute. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS referred to three pending amendments to the bill. He hoped the committee would consider incorporating the amendments into the bill. 2:07:49 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ made a motion to adopt Amendments 1, 2, and 3. REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN objected. 2:08:24 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ withdrew her motion. She then made a motion to adopt Amendment 1, which read [original punctuation provided]: Page 1, line 11 After the word "studs." insert a new subsection to read: (c) In this section, "Highway" means north of 60 North Latitude and exclusive of any road not connected to the Dalton, Parks, Richardson, Tok, Alaska, Glenn or Sterling Highways. REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN objected for the purpose of discussion. 2:08:39 PM REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS explained that Amendment 1 would require winter tires in an area of the state that has most of the roads. Thus, Amendment 1 would exclude all of Southeast Alaska from the mandatory requirement for winter tire use. He thought Amendment 1 might remove some of the issues raised and attempts to narrow the focus of the bill on the coldest areas of the state. 2:09:27 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ asked whether Amendment 1 would exclude the Dalton Highway. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS answered since it is connected to road system, that the Dalton Highway is included. In response to Representative Petersen, he indicated Amendment 1 would exclude Southeast Alaska. 2:10:15 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked what areas or communities would be excluded under Amendment 1. JOHN BITNEY, Staff, Representative John Harris, Alaska State Legislature, stated that Amendment 1 is an effort to craft an exemption that would apply to areas south of Yakutat, Alaska. Thus, Amendment 1 would also exempt roads off the main highway system. 2:11:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON pointed out that those driving in Anchorage must switch and she lives in Fairbanks but comes to Juneau during the legislative session. MR. BITNEY responded that she could leave her winter tires on in Southeast Alaska and not be penalized. She would need them on in Fairbanks. REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether the tires are based on temperature. MR. BITNEY responded yes, based on testimony by the experts. The current statutes are written in relation to the calendar year for studded tires. This bill would essentially be similar, with longer periods of time required in the northern areas of the state. 2:13:06 PM MR. BITNEY, in response to Representative Gruenberg, answered that Amendment 1 would exclude the Aleutian Islands since they are not connected by the road system. 2:13:37 PM CHAIR WILSON expressed concern that some years the weather in Southeast Alaska hovers between freezing and thawing. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS recalled hearing from people in Petersburg, Wrangell, and Sitka that were in opposition to the bill. 2:14:44 PM REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN clarified that in the event a person placed studded winter tires on their vehicle in Southeast Alaska, that action would be encouraged but not mandatory. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS agreed. Additionally, HB 322 would not require law enforcement to check, but if an accident occurred, and the tires were not winter tires, but was a contributing factor, the person could be cited. No one is expecting that the AST will stop a person solely based on their tires. 2:16:20 PM REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON asked whether he considered encouraging winter tire use instead of mandating winter tire use. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS explained that the bill contains a public education campaign, but "if you want to have any teeth to it, you make it mandatory." Otherwise it is just a recommendation for winter tires and it would be nice to do it. 2:16:56 PM REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG remarked that some legislators have advocated for an assessment of the impact on municipalities. He said this bill may be a bill that should be assessed with respect to its impact on municipalities. CHAIR WILSON asked whether four years would be the time to buy another set of tires. REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG agreed that is true in many districts, but most people have older cars or take the bus in his district. He thought HB 322 might prevent his constituents from being able to afford a car. 2:19:25 PM REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN removed his objection. There being no objection, Amendment 1 passed. 2:19:48 PM REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ made a motion to adopt Amendment 2, which read [original punctuation provided]: Page 1, line 5: After the word "from" delete [December] and insert October After the word "to" delete [March] and insert April REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN objected for purpose of discussion. REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS explained that Amendment 2 would use an approach similar to the dates for studded tire use. REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN removed his objection. There being no further objection, Amendment 2 was adopted. 2:20:39 PM REPRESENTATIVE HARRIS asked the committee to consider a conceptual amendment to Amendment 3. REPRESENTATIVE MUNOZ made a motion to adopt a conceptual amendment to Amendment 3, which read as follows: Page 2, line 4: After the word "effect" delete [December] and insert October 15, 2014. 2:21:16 PM REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG objected for a specific technical conceptual amendment to Amendment 3. He referred members to page 2, line 4, and suggested deleting December 15, 2011, and replacing the date with October 15, 2014. The proposed Conceptual Amendment to Amendment 3, read, as follows: Page 2, line 4: After the word "effect" delete [December 15, 2011] and insert October 15, 2014. CHAIR P. WILSON announced that the Amendment to Amendment 3 was adopted. CHAIR P. WILSON stated that Amendment 3, as amended is before the committee, which read [original punctuation provided]: Page 2, line 4: After the word "effect" delete [December 15, 2011] and insert October 15, 2014. 2:22:34 PM REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG removed his objection. There being no further objection, Amendment 3, as amended, was adopted. [HB 322 was held over.]
Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
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HB 322 winter tires backup.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |
HB322 winter tires sponsor stmt.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
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HB257 cell phone ban sponsor stmt.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 257 |
HB257 cell phone ban sectional.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 257 |
hb257 cell phone ban backup.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM HTRA 3/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 257 |
HB 8 gasline pie purchase sponsor stmt.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 8 |
HB8 gasline pipe purchase tariff and revenue.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 8 |
HB8 gasline pipe purchase backup.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 8 |
HB 322 Presentation.pdf |
HTRA 2/16/2010 1:00:00 PM |
HB 322 |